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During the
Inquisition toca frequently resulted in its victims admitting to casting
spells on their innocent neighbors or other such unacceptable behavior
for which they would be burned at the stake. When it was used on a man
alleged to be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the accused mastermind behind the
9/11 attacks, the captive confessed responsibility for almost 30 terrorist
plots, including assassination designs against Pakistani President Pervez
Musharraf, Pope John Paul and other leaders. Mohammed, frequently referred
as “KSM,” is one of six individuals the U.S. government designates
as “high-value detainees” who could be executed at Guantanamo
following military “commission” trials set to begin.
Held devoid of outside contact since his capture in Pakistan in early
2003 until he met his defense counsel, Navy Captain Prescott Prince, two
weeks ago at a secret CIA camp apart from other detainees at the Guantanamo
base, KSM has yet to clarify his approach to the trial with his lawyer,
but Prince has stated a belief that a fair trial was not possible in the
circumstances.
Michael Ratner, the West Shokan and Manhattan resident who serves as president
of the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) defending another of the
high-value captives, Mohammed al-Qalitani, has paid close attention to
the KSM case. Having devoted his legal career to the defense of civil
and human rights, he’s well aware of the lasting impact upon rights
the decisions in these cases will have, registering them as among the
most important court battles of the modern era.
“Here’s my view of (KSM). The government has admitted that
he was water-tortured, right?” Ratner asked. “We represent
a lot of clients who have undergone those types of torture. Essentially,
my earliest experience was with guys called the “Tipton 3”,
who weren’t even waterboarded but confessed to being in a training
camp with Osama bin Laden. At first they denied it, then they were tortured
and confessed. British intelligence has proven they were working in England
at the time they were supposedly being trained by bin Laden. That gives
you an example. Another client, Mahir Arar- a famous Canadian taken off
a U.S. airplane at Kennedy Airport and sent to Syria for torture, supposedly
also confessed to being trained in Afghanistan. He’s never been
to Afghanistan in his life. He’s been completely exonerated by the
Canadians. They just claimed he was al-Qaida. Basically the rule we plead
applicable to these cases is ‘people under torture will say whatever
their torturers want to hear.’ That’s generally been the case
and my office has seen many of these false confessions- not only in Guantanamo
but as a classic factor in regular criminal law. So, you have a problem
with (KSM) right away.”
Ratner notes that KSM “takes credit for everything” in his
statement, including deeds it would have been impossible for him to have
planned. He confessed to killing the journalist Daniel Pearl, who was
in Pakistan investigating ties between the Pakistani intelligence service,
ISI, and the 9/11 hijackings. Former CIA officer Robert Baer, whose former
agency is closely linked to the ISI, has stated “My old colleagues
say with 100% certainty that KSM did not kill Pearl” and even the
Pearl family rejects this claim. Even the true identity of the captive
has been questioned- since KSM was reported killed in a raid on his Karachi
apartment in December 2001.
Referring to the then still-classified KSM confession upon which a NYCDEP
police chief (who has since left the department under a cloud suggesting
abuse of authority in a separate matter) based his decision to close local
Monument Road, in Olive, Ratner said he can think of nothing in the statement
which indicated such a threat.
“Let’s be serious here, whoever he is, and we won’t
know that until there’s some independent evidence about that, it
just seems crazy (to close the road on the basis of an obscure, projected
threat to attack the Ashokan dam),” said Ratner, recalling the times
he’s had to take the detour. “You can go over the George Washington
Bridge on a truck without being checked or through the Holland Tunnel
and, assuming anybody knows where the place is, they’re talking
about the last of the homemade dams here and how much (explosive) it would
take to blow all the way down to it; it’s absurd.”
Ratner said lawyers in his office with high security clearances that have
seen some material he’s never seen but, because of how closely held
by high level CIA and military officials detainee information is, he doubts
that the FBI had anything to show the police chief beyond the now-declassified
KSM confession.
Secret evidence is a huge problem in the cases, said Ratner.; “What
they are able to do under the rubric of secret evidence is say they have
all kinds of things and there’s no way of showing that they don’t.
What we DO know is that to the extent they’re relied on it, it comes
out that it’s not reliable or it’s exaggerated.”
Excessive secrecy has been a government hallmark since the 9/11 attacks,
particularly in regard to evidence. Building debris, kept under armed
guard and loaded on trucks with global positioning devices to make sure
none of it went astray, was disposed of despite loud protests. The FBI
seized over 80 videos of the Pentagon crash and refuse to show any of
them except for a few stills. The CIA destroyed video tapes of hundreds
of detainee interrogations in defiance of a judge’s orders and an
air traffic control manager likewise destroyed audio tapes relating to
the hijackings. Records on a man accused of being bin Laden’s driver
were “lost.”
More than 100 detainees died in U.S. custody between 2002 and October
2005. Suicides at Guantanamo’s Camp Delta have been classified by
military authorities as “PR exercises” and acts of “asymmetrical
warfare” against the U.S. rather than indications of desperation.
But some prosecutors and former interrogators will be testifying for the
defense in the upcoming trials. Even Maj. Gen. Michael E. Dunlavey, who
was in charge of Army interrogations at Delta, now admits that “torture
doesn’t work.”
Agents from the Pentagon’s Criminal Investigation Task Force (CITF)
working to build legal cases against the detainees told MSNBC in October
2006 that they had opposed the interrogation tactics not only because
they were illegal but because they were “not likely to produce truthful
information, either for preventing more al-Qaida attacks or prosecuting
terrorists” and may, in fact, make the cases impossible to try.
There were other legal and effective ways to elicit the desired information
than those in use at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison and other detention
sites where interrogation specialists, (some hired from private firms
to evade limitations of conduct imposed by international law), plied their
trade. The agents said that their own resistance to torture techniques
was overruled at the highest levels of government and Ratner has some
points about that we will revisit in the final installment of this report.
At this time, Michael Ratner’s group at the CCR is defending Mohammed
al-Qahtani, a Saudi accused of having been assigned a highjacking role
that fateful day by KSM but was refused entrance to the U.S. and was arrested
on the Afghani-Pakistani border in December 2001. Although he was one
of the captives whose physical, sexual, chemical and psychological mistreatment
would negate any prosecution against him in a civil or military court,
he was named as one of the six to face the death penalty this month from
a special military commission of officers who, unlike other courts, can
consider evidence shielded from the public and even permit statements
coerced by torture. Spectators approved by the Pentagon can watch the
proceedings behind a sound-proofed window, listening to an audio-feed
which can be cut off if the defendant begins to say anything he shouldn’t,
but they are forbidden to report anything not approved by censors.
To Ratner it is, like the lightless underground steel cells and the conduct
of the country in the past 7 years, “barbaric.”
CCR’s 20-something client, al-Qahtani, was interrogated 18 to 20
hours a day for 48 of 54 days in one stretch, being revived in hospital
at one point when his heart rate fell to 35 beats a minute. He “confessed”
to being trained at al-Qaida camps and identified 30 fellow detainees
as bin Laden bodyguards, all of which he later recanted. All of this as
he was drugged and reduced to the “physicially and psychologically
broken” state his CCR attorney Gitanjali S. Gutierrez now describes
and “nothing new” was learned from him, as one interrogator
admitted.
“The government has never come forward with any evidence that wasn’t
obtained by torture,” Gutierrez declared. Likewise, Ratner has observed
that the measures employed are anything but a formula for obtaining truthful
information.
He also had some very succinct and urgent things to say about official
accountability, financial motives, the questionable role of the press
and the future plans of the CCR and himself which will be detailed when
this report concludes in the next issue.
Our
Last Farmers
When asked what the biggest challenges he faces on the farm are, he laughed
and said “fuel, anything related to fuel” then added that
“fertilizer has gone from 150 a ton to a little over 600 a ton.”
When asked if there is hope for our young farmers, he laughed again and
said, “There is with organic crops and ready-to-eat foods that can
be produced and processed on the farm.”
Ingram pointed to the field across the road and up the hill and said,
“All back up in there was plowed for grain production and there
were big bins in the granary to keep wheat, rye, oats and buckwheat. That’s
what they had in those days... they used oxen at first and as time went
on they changed over to horses.” He said that “horse powered
farms now have an advantage over fuel powered farms.”
Ingram’s daughter Naomi boils maple syrup with her husband Grant
on the family farm and they also have a couple of cows pastured at a mostly
fallow neighboring farm owned by a family friend. She feels that, “The
fuel costs will drive the price of food up and cause a move back to more
local food production. A lot more people want local food and they are
a lot more aware.”
Ingram added, “All these little farms through here were little 15
cow dairies. Al Rose had the chicken farm on Mill Road and he also carted
the neighbors milk cans to the creamery in Kyserike near Alligerville.
Everyone here shipped milk. Vegetables were grown by most everybody and
many farmers had rooms or cabins to rent out to the summer trade. You
had to do a little bit of everything. Today you need some specialty thing
and you need to keep the deer out. Years ago there were no deer here,
they were all killed by the farmers.”
He compared today to World War II, saying “Everybody had a garden
to help subsidize due to the food rationing. This current mess is similar
in that; you may not be able to get everything you need. People have gotten
used to cheap food and food out of season.... A lot of things are going
to change with the energy increase. Everything in modern farming depends
on cheap plentiful fuel. You‘ve got to keep the cost of your inputs
low and use less energy.”
Harvey “Lintz” Avery has lived in West Shokan his whole life
and immediately ticked off the names of half a dozen surrounding farms
when he was growing up on his family’s farm in Moonhaw.
“We had cows,” he said. “My aunt Jenny had a cow, John
Nichol’s brothers had cows. These were small family farms. Nearly
all families were involved in some kind of food production.”
Avery pointed to the spring house in his sister Beverly’s front
yard and said, “My father used to put the milk cans in the spring
house to keep it cool. Most farms shipped some milk in cans to the Kyserike
Creamery.... Mr. Bailey of Beechford Farms in Boiceville used to cut ice
for use in the dairy. He liked that people worked together, helped each
other. We didn’t have any money but we had lots of work to do. We
always had plenty of food.”
Lonnie Gale, resident of Phoenicia and author of Shandaken, New York,
A Pictorial History was emphatic when he exclaimed, “It was all
farms early on! How else could you feed everyone who worked in the other
industries?”
The route 28 corridor from Boiceville to Phoenicia had several large dairy
farms starting with Beechford Farms located just west of where the high
school now exists. As the local dairy industry became less viable over
time Beechford Farms declined and was eventually developed for housing.
Where dairy farms once stood and operated along Rt. 28 in Mt. Tremper
are now two farm stands in close proximity: Alyce and Rogers, located
on the site of the old Hudler Dairy Farm, was founded when its owners
came up to the Catskills during the back-to-the-land movement which arose
after the energy and dollar crisis of the 1970s. Alyce remembers, “In
1980 when it was hard to get things, much less trucks coming through.
I had this huge organic garden that I worked on day and night and I would
go up and down 28 to the restaurants like Rudi’s and the Shandaken
Inn and Mt. Pleasant Lodge. They were very happy to get fresh organic
produce. These days we buy most of our products from farms and artisanal
producers located in the surrounding seven counties.” Roger added
that, “Some of our suppliers are long established multi-generational
farms such as R.O. Davenport who are able producers of the highest quality
foods. We’ve been forging relationships with regional farms for
25 years.” Alyce chimed in that, “Our customers know that
when they bite into a peach here it will be the best tasting peach you
can find. We hand pick everything for the highest quality and our customer
base has a lot of multi generational families as customers. We watch the
kids grow up. We have artisan-type cheeses, smoked trout and do a brisk
trade in homemade pies. We seek out produce and products as local as possible.”
Less then a quarter mile up the road lies the Hanover Farms stand run
by Al Higley Sr. and his son Al Higley Jr. Al Jr. recounted the time when
he was 11 and his brother was 15 and they “grew a big garden at
their uncle Harvey “Lintz” Avery’s farm in West Shokan
and set up a farm stand on the corner of Bell Lane and Watson Hollow Road.”
Al Jr. said that, “We grow very little for the stand; it would be
impossible to both grow and have a market with a wide variety of food
and food products.” He proudly showed off his own mesclun mix containing
a large variety of different salad greens and culinary herbs.
Teresa Rusinek, who works as an agricultural issues and horticultural
production educator for Cornell Cooperative Extension in Kingston, says
that “There has been a notable increase in the number of livestock
operations that primarily seek to pasture or graze the animals rather
than confine. There has also been a big increase in the number of horse
farms with lots of people breeding and boarding.”
. Rusinek advocates for farmland conservation in order to “keep
space open. Its all about food security and the more we can grow at home
here in the northeast, the better off we would all be. The more land that
is converted to other uses makes it difficult to bring it back.”
She went on to say that she “finds it a little scary that we may
not have the land to go back too if we have to.”
Rusinek finished by saying that there are many resources available for
startup farmers and that anyone can contact the Cornell Cooperative Extension
in Kingston at 340-3990 for more information on farming opportunities
in the Hudson Valley.
5-8
At The High School
At the April
23 board of education meeting, KSQ architects Armand Quadrini and Scott
Hillje gave a presentation focused on a recent meeting they’d had
with State Aid officials and outlined the costs on the two proposed middle
school configurations. Ten percent more state aid was offered to the district
if certain criteria were met and converting Bennett elementary in a middle
school did not meet the requirements.
“The situation that put the middle school and high school in a shared
footprint would allow you to capture the maximum state aid,” said
Quadrini, although he warned that this aid configuration could change.
“I want to make sure this is understood by everyone here tonight,
your basic aid is 31 percent and the State started offering this additional
ten percent bump, I think about seven years ago and I think it could be
pulled anytime,” he added, “The ten percent hopefully will
still be out there when we go out (to bond).”
The total projected bond price tag to extend the middle school and update
the middle/high facilities is $42.3 million. Additional cost to renovate
and create two Kindergarten-through-four schools would cost in the $20
million to $30 million range, depending on which schools would close.
“There may be cost implications,” said Quadrini. “Once
we pick a final plan the construction manager is going to re-estimate
the whole project because a lot of the costs that have been estimated
were done about 14-16 months ago.”
Following plan refinements, and SEQRA review, KSQ would hope to have a
bond go out to voters by January 2009. If the bond were successful, Phase
One would begin with the Middle school construction possibly beginning
during the summer of 2010.
KSQ have added additions to the middle school configuration in order to
make it separate from the high school with the library and auditorium
as the only shared facilities. New construction would be added to the
front end of the building with the middle school having it’s own
entrance, gym and cafeteria. Food would be brought over from the high
school and kept warm.
Demographic projections predict that the total population of students
by the year 2014 will be 1420 students. The architects said that three
Kindergarten classrooms in each school, at 23 per class, would have a
capacity for 20 additional pupils. Two first grade classrooms with 25
per classroom would have an excess capacity of no more than one extra
pupil. Two-second grade classrooms in each school with 25 per class would
have an excess capacity of three students. Two third grade classrooms
in each school with a total of 25 per classroom would have an excess capacity
of one student. Two fourth grade classrooms in each school with a total
of 27 per classroom would have an excess capacity of seven students.
Trustee Maxanne Resnick asked what would happen if there was a population
growth that would tip classroom sizes.
Quadrini answered, “Our duty as your architect is to apply demographic
enrollment as it is presented to us, so we don’t ask those questions
- what if it goes down? Those are theoretical questions that are outside
the bounds of the demographers’ enrollment report.”
Later in the night, nearing 11pm, a dwindled down audience was finally
allowed to speak. Most expressed angered over the 15 minutes it took to
make the decision and close a school.
Adam Pollack
an Onteora studen, has his name on the ballot but said at a Meet The Candidates
event on Monday, May 5, that he now supported the anti-incumbent slate.
All eight agree that its time to put Large Parcel to an end and all will
vote no, if it comes up for a vote.
Adam Pollack is a senior at Onteora High School and will be commuting
to the University of Albany this fall. His major is political science.
“This is the best way to get involved since this is what I want
to do with my life,” he said. Pollack lists two reasons why he decided
to become a candidate; the board needs a representative for students with
voting power when making decisions and he is against the five-through-eight
middle school plan and does not want to see a school close because of
low enrollment. His opinion is based on fairness through taxation, with
every town getting it’s fair share. “If Woodstock and Phoenicia
are paying school taxes, then they should have their own school.”
He also suggested putting central administration offices at Bennett School,
with additional space there for expansion projects important to the student
community such as an athletic center, music and art, and INDIE. Pollack
attended Woodstock Elementary and was against the closure of West Hurley
elementary. He is Vice President of DECA, attended the Harvard Model Congress
this year, is secretary of student affairs, Vice President of his senior
class and helped raise $10,000 for the Woodstock skate park.
Incumbent School Board President Mary Jane Bernholz lives in Olive, is
married with three children, works in real estate, valuation and consulting,
and attended Ulster County Community College in business administration.
She describes herself as a proactive decision and policy maker and is
on the board’s audit and communications committees. Bernholz supports
the five-through-eight middle school expansion at the high school and
was on the middle school steering committee. She envisions, “A segregated
middle school attached to the high school.” She said it is not because
of the middle school but declining enrollment that an elementary school
must close, a decision she supports. Although the board has not decided
what elementary school it would be she said there must remain one on the
east and west end of the district. “It would be either Bennett or
Phoenicia and West Hurley or Woodstock,” she said. “The advantage
is a two year planning period, so there would be community involvement
and this makes sure everyone is comfortable in the process.” Over
her past three years on the school board she offers a long list of achievements
including her leadership in school nutrition, getting rid of junk food
and soda, creation of no tobacco and a health and wellness policy, as
well as keeping Onteora’s budgets the lowest in Ulster County. She
said that if she could go back and change anything that she would communicate
better with the public. She also wants to clear up what she believes is
a public misconception that her vision is all about money. “We’re
in the business of students and I have been personally mindful of that…”
Incumbent and board Vice President Cindy O’Connor lives in Olivebridge,
is married with two children (her third and oldest son was struck and
killed by a school bus driver in 2002), and owns and operates Sheldon
Hill Forestry Supplies on Route 28 in Boiceville with her husband. She
has a Bachelors of Science degree in marketing from Kings College in Wilkes-Barre,
PA. . O’Connor sits on the audit and communication committee and
over her three years as a board member is most proud of, “Raising
the standard of student achievement and district wide accountability.”
She has also worked diligently on the budget which she says, “Is
now determined by actual expenses, student needs and prioritizing our
building repairs.” She supports the five-through-eight middle school
plan at the high school because. “There is no other choice when
it comes to State aid.” She believes there should be two elementary
schools with one at each end of the district. O’Connor regrets not
being able to attend more school functions.
Incumbent Rita Vanacore lives in Shokan, is married with three children,
is licensed in cosmetology, and is part owner and hair stylist at Dream
Weavers in Kingston. Vanacore is on the policy and early childhood development
committee. She supports adding the 5-8 middle school onto the high school,
and with the district enrollment shrinking has advocated for the closing
of Phoenicia Elementary. She views enrollment declining so low that in
the ten years a central campus at the Boiceville site is all that that
will be needed. She would like to see INDIE moved into the high school.
Vanacore said she is most proud of, “The lowest tax levy in the
county for three years.” She also lists accomplishments such as
getting rid of junk food, support for the health and nutrition program,
increasing the technology budget, limiting access to the military and
the no tobacco policy. She would not do anything different stating, “Overall
I am very happy with the job I have done.”
Ralph Legnini has lived throughout the district for the past 27 years,
the past nine in Olive with his wife and two children, and is a musician
who runs his own music production company and has recorded with artists
such as James Taylor and Kate Pierson He is the director of the Children’s
Aikido program at Woodstock Aikido and has a degree in music education
from Herbert H. Lehman College. He is against closing an elementary schoo
and believes, “We need to celebrate our different community cultures
instead of morphing into one generic school.” He believes the board’s
5-8 Middle School redistricting plan may not be as cost effective as it
appears and feels that the proposal to have 25 to 27 students per classroom
is “not healthy from an educational standpoint.” Legnini understands
that with the economy in tough times, higher taxes especially toward people
on social security is difficult, but he does not believe a large bond
is the answer to lowering taxes. His vision is to utilize the community
for more resources and downsize the current proposed improvements to the
buildings.
Woodstock resident Donna Flayhan is married with two children, is an associate
professor at SUNY New Paltz, with a Ph.D in Communication from the University
of Iowa. Flayhan directs the Lower Manhattan Public Health Project and
is on the Advisory Board of a research think tank conducting studies on
sick 9/11 workers. She said many people are moving here and demographics
only recognize area births, which is why the actual school population
is slightly above the demographic charts. She said if elected she would
“Work towards entrusting and listening to the community where we
can all come up with the best plan.” She would prefer to put funding
toward fixing the buildings instead of new construction, a plan she calls
a “tragedy,”and is worried about the increased cost of fuel
and insurance when it comes to transporting children further to a centralized
campus over neighborhood schools.
Shandaken resident Ann McGillicuddy is married with three children, has
a Bachelor of Fine Arts from SUNY Purchase, and grew up in an educational
family environment with her father w a public school teacher for 36 years
and her grandmother one for 32 years. She moved from the Kingston area
six years ago for the schools. She believes that the school boards’
decision to create a five-through-eight middle school is a bad idea and
runs counter to the fact that successful rural schools tend to rely on
community interaction and not a removed centralized district. “My
vision is to find alternative creative solutions.” She said that
research shows when students remain in their community schools with access
to teachers, parents and local volunteers that they achieve at higher
standards. “Either new construction or teachers-I don’t think
I can choose one or the other.”
Woodstock resident Laurie Osmond is an active PTA member at Phoenicia
elementary, where she has one child, and is a small business owner in
media production who is a member of the Ulster County Chamber of Commerce.
She attended Brown University and San Francisco State University with
a Bachelor of Arts in Broadcast Communication Arts. She wants to see the
proposed middle school expansion stopped because she feels it shows a
lack of logic behind the planning, and is angered by last-minute decisions
being made about state aid formulas the board should have been aware of
long ago. She wants to see studies based on State aid, lower classroom
sizes and the different plans that were proposed in the past but never
followed through. Osmond believes the solution is too scale back, invest
in teachers, pull resources from communities and rethink all of it.
What’s
Up With The City?
“There’s
been a definite clearing of the atmosphere, so to speak,” said Olive
Town Supervisor of the shift that’s brought his town its first reprieve
from ongoing battles with the Big Apple in decades. “Something’s
afoot, just what it is, I’m not sure.”
Now, it appears that what’s been happening in regards to new attitudes
on the part of New York City, and its old Upstate foes, has been the result
of a new round of closed-door talks going on in Albany, the City department
of Environmental Protection’s Kingston offices, and other locations
around the Catskills in recent months… all started under former
governor Eliot Spitzer but currently being continued by his successor,
Governor David Paterson.
That information arose on April 22 when the Catskill Watershed Corporation
held its annual meeting out in the Delaware County village of Margaretville.
Towards the end of the evening’s proceedings, it turns out, former
State Watershed Inspector General James Tierney, now a Deputy Commissioner
at the State Department of Environmental Conservation, announced that
in fact it has been the Governor’s office that has stepped in to
help solve the ongoing issue of the city’s policy of challenging
upstate tax assessments.
CWC Executive Director Alan Rosa followed up, noting how he’d been
warning watershed towns for over a year that the tax issue must be resolved
because the City has the resources to go far through the legal system
while upstate towns were going broke in the fight. He spoke about current
talks run by the Governor’s office since January with optimism,
and said that he felt the discussions to date had played a major role
in the recent settlement reached with Olive.
Back when the CWC was set up after the signing of a Governor’s office-brokered
Memorandum of Agreement in 1997, a special account was set up with New
York City funds to pay the costs for defending tax assessment challenges
made by the City against municipalities within the City’s watershed
region. Although there are still ten different challenges pending, Olive’s
battle had nearly depleted that account.
A call to one of the remaining assessment battles, Hurley supervisor Gary
Bellows, resulted in the news that a recent April 9 court hearing on their
case ended with the judge hearing both summations and sending both parties
back to their drawing boards for another 60 days of finalizing work.
“We’ve been told there’ll be no decision before June
or July,” said Bellows this week. “We won’t have any
more news on the issue until then.”
At the CWC meeting, meanwhile, Rosa and other watershed representatives
insisted that the talks they’d been holding were totally confidential,
much in the same way talks had been back in were back in the mid-1990s
when a host of local representatives met under former Governor George
Pataki to reach the MOA deal they all signed in 1997.
Dennis Lucas, the Town of Hunter supervisor who serves as Executive Director
of the Coalition of Watershed Towns, whose fight over proposed New York
City regulations led to the creation of the MOA and CWC, noted in a separate
interview that the impetus for the current talks, and resulting new atmosphere,
came after he reached out to “the governor’s people and other
state regulators” last year to address concerns about fraying upstate/downstate
relations.
He said the big push came after the federal Environmental Protection Agency
okayed a ten year Filtration Avoidance Determination for the City, sparking
a lawsuit and other threats from the Coalition and other Upstate entities
worried that the length of time of the new approvals would eat into their
negotiating power.
Late last fall, Lucas continued, Tierney - knowledgeable about Catskills
issues since dealing with the Belleayre Resort review in his previous
job - was given the role of leading talks… and allowed to use a
sizable staff to help move things along. Since January, parties involved
in the ongoing talks have included various DEC officials, the Governor’s
Secretary of the Environment Judith Enck, city DEP Commissioner Emily
Lloyd and Deputy Commissioner Paul Rush, and representatives from the
Catskill Center for Conservation and Development, representing the region’s
environmental interests.
“From these discussions much progress has been made,” Lucas
said, noting that in addition to tax assessment battles, items being mulled
over include giving Upstate entities approval power regarding City land
acquisitions within the watershed, increased recreation uses for city
lands, including those around its reservoirs, and new investment mechanisms
for the region. “We’re moving back towards an equal partnership
bent on serving our shared constituents… We just had to recognize
once again that we’re all in this together.”
Asked whether there was any relationship between the state’s new
attitude towards the Catskills watershed region and the Agreement in Principal
regarding the controversial Belleayre Resort that Spitzer announced and
signed in Kingston last September, Lucas said no, not at all. He said
the only time the Coalition of Watershed Towns touched on the Gitter proposal,
now grown more controversial as it involves new state investment in its
own ski center adjacent to the resort complex, was when its review process
raised issues involving community character that Lucas and others in the
entity felt were better left to “home rule” decisions by individual
towns.
“It’s my belief that if one town wants to paint itself green
and go to hell in a handbasket, they have a right to do so, within reason,”
he said. “That’s part of the character of the Catskills.”
“I’m just tickled pink to see everyone willing to sit down
together and critique our partnership, renew commitments to work together,
and move forward,” Lucas said. “We’re doing okay.”
Leifeld, for his part, spoke about the “new attitude of cooperation”
also including $500,000 in Smart Growth funds committed by the state to
projects in the Route 28 corridor from Olive to Andes, and possibly being
more tied into “the Dean Gitter thing” than Lucas wanted to
admit.
“I’m not privy to the meetings,” he said. “But
I’m happy they’re happening.”
He also offered that a relationship between the new talks and the AIP
did exist in the way the new administration, through two governors now,
has placed emphasis on developing the Hudson Valley as a “green
corridor” similar to what Silicon Valley was for the digital age,
and bettering relationships, and opportunities, within the Catskills.
“It’s big stuff,” he said. “For them to agree
to leave us alone for ten years… that’s something!”
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